
“Now brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and OUR GATHERING TOGETHER TO HIM, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled in spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.”- 2 Thess 2:1-2
“His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and GATHER His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”- Matt 3:12
The GATHERING of His saints at His second coming Parousia took place in 66ad. God had the wheat, and the tares grow together until the time of the harvest. At the end of the Jewish age, the tares (unbelievers) were GATHERED TOGETHER and judged. They were sentenced to condemnation into the Lake of Fire. The wheat (believers) were GATHERED TOGETHER in His kingdom.
“Let both grow together UNTIL THE HARVEST, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First GATHER TOGETHER THE TARES and bind them in bundles to burn them, but GATHER THE WHEAT into my barn.”- Matt 13:30
“Therefore, as THE TARES ARE GATHERED AND BURNED IN THE FIRE, so it will be at the END OF THIS AGE. The Son of Man will send out His angles, and they will GATHER out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.”- Matt 13:40-42
“If anyone does not abide in Me, He is cast out as a branch is withered; and they GATHER them and THROW THEM INTO THE FIRE, and they are burned. -John 15:6
Jesus told His disciples in 30ad that those first century Jews would see the SIGN of His second coming Parousia in THAT GENERATION. This sign would be in the clouds over Jerusalem in 66ad. He would come with power and great glory. The non-believing Jews would MOURN at the wrath of God being poured out on the city and the temple in Jerusalem.
He would also send His angels to GATHER TOGETHER His deceased elect saints from the outer courts of heaven, and His living elect saints from the farthest part of the earth. – Mark 13:27 These would be judged and receive eternal life in the presence of God forever.
“Then THE SIGN of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then ALL THE TRIBES OF THE EARTH (unbelieving Jews) WILL MOURN, and they will see the Son of Man COMING OUT OF THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will GATHER TOGETHER HIS ELECT FROM THE FOUR WINDS, FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER.”- Matt 24:30-31
The GATHERING of the saints took place in 66ad. when Christ returned at His second coming Parousia. This was the fullness of the prophetic times. All of His deceased elect believer had been waiting in heaven for his return; and all HIs elect believers alive on earth were eagerly waiting His return. – Rom 8:23; 1 Cor 1:7 They were all GATHERED together in Christ and forever will remain with Him. Apostle Paul wrote about this in 62-63ad:
“that in that dispensation of the fullness of the times He might GATHER TOGETHER IN ONE ALL THE THINGS IN CHRIST, BOTH WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN AND WHICH ARE ON EARTH.- in Him.” -Eph 1:10
The Jewish historian, Josephus (not a Christian) wrote about the signs that the unbelieving Jews saw in the clouds when Christ returned. These signs were during the year before the war began in 67ad. Included in these signs was the rapture of the saints that occurred in May 66ad. A few examples are the following:
“Thus there was a STAR RESEMBLING A SWORD, and BEFORE THOSE COMMOTIONS WHICH PRECEDED THE WAR, when the people were coming in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eight day of the month Xanthicus [Nissan], and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a LIGHT SHONE ROUND THE ALTAR AND THE HOLY HOUSE, that in appeared to be bright day time; which light lasted for half an hour.” (Wars 6.5.3.29).
“So these signs publicly declared that THIS SINGNAL FORSHADOWED THE DESOLATION that was coming upon them. Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the twenty-first day of the month Artemisius [Jyar] (May -66ad). a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared; I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sunsetting, CHARIOTS AND TROOPS OF SOILDERS IN THIER ARMOR were seen running about AMOUNG THE CLOUDS, and surrounding cities. Moreover at the feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place they FELT A QUACKING, and HEARD A GREAT NOISE, and after that they HEARD A SOUND as a great multitude, saying, “LET US REMOVE HENCE.'” (Wars 6.5.3.296-300).
Michael Alan Nichols
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My thoughts: well, I am for sure Not a Preterist, but I am definitely no longer in the futuristic dispensationalists church going believing either. As Paul points out though “that in that dispensation of the fullness of the times He might GATHER TOGETHER IN ONE ALL THE THINGS IN CHRIST, BOTH WHICH ARE IN HEAVEN AND WHICH ARE ON EARTH.- in Him.” -Eph 1:10 this is the only dispensation I believe in, when the fullness of the prophetic times happened and that was complete in the finished works of Christ at the cross.
I say I am not a preterist because they see the second coming as the day of the war of 66-70ad when judgement came in the clouds… and that is a prophetic moment; however, I don’t actually see the term “second coming” actually in the scriptures. Go ahead and research that out, you won’t find it! The “return of Christ” might be there and in quiet time and prayer with Abba, the Spirit spoke to me that the resurrection of Christ was the day he was speaking of to His disciples when He said ‘in a little while” he meant IN A LITTLE WHILE!
“A little while, and you will no longer see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me.”- John 16:16
I am a adamant researcher so I read a lot of different topics. So I have read a lot of historical pieces as the one mentioned above on Josephus- and I do believe that the Jewish- Roman war of 66-70ad was when the transition period was over, God has finally had His cup full of the disobedience and false idol worship of the temple system and that is when He DEMOLISHED IT! For this reason, I decided that I will NEVER again worship in a temple worship type of system. NO doctrine, theology nor eschatology will ever gain my support nor my honor! I don’t even sit under a bunch of ‘worship’ music and allow my emotions to dictate my thoughts, will nor emotions anymore. Emotionalism with Worship music is NOT true worship! Too many fall under the category of emotionalism and think that it is the HOLY SPIRIT! It is NOT! I suggest we learn how to worship in the silence too, outside of the four walls of ‘church’ and understand the ‘dispensation’ we are in, and that is to worship Abba Jesus in SPIRIT AND IN TRUTH! The COMPLETE WORK OF THE CROSS IS THE FULLNESS OF THE PHROPHETIC! THERE IS NO MORE BIBLICAL PROPHECY TO BE FULFILLED! ANYTHING OR ANYONE DECLARING SUCH THINGS ARE A LIAR AND ARE LITERALLY MOCKING GOD! ANY FUTURE BIBLICAL TEACHINGS IS PURE BLASPHEMY AND I WILL CONTINUE TO REBUKE IT! Hopefully In LOVE!
Christ fulfilled all the wiles of the adversary the day He shed HIS BLOOD on the CROSS to cover HIS inherited Children of God!
We are either saved by the blood or we are oppressed by the laws of the OLD COVENANT and still living a life controlled by the Pharisees (satan). We are either Free IN CHRIST or Oppressed by legalism (satan)!
Jesus came to defeat the power of Law, sin and eternal death! Understand the prophecy and understand the fulness of the prophetic! When all can come to that understanding then the will of God will be satisfied! We must daily do our part in the kingdom!
May we continue to simply keep the message of the scriptures unadulterated and may we go forth and preach the unadulterated gospel and bring forth His harvest in every generation! CHRIST IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA THE BEGINNING AND THE END! IN HIM ALL THINGS ARE COMPLETE!
But first and most importantly seek (aim at, strive after) His kingdom and His righteousness [His way of doing and being right—the attitude and character of God], and all these things will be given to you also. -Matt 6:33
All My kingdom fulfilling LOVE, Diana 🙂 xo








